That thing is extremely effective, and on the rifle I tested these on … it had the perfect balance of sending gas upward to offset muzzle rise, but not load the barrel with a down force either. 2 reviews. What happens if a brake is used under a suppressor? The bottom line is to deal in absolute fundamentals, measure them, and remove all the assumptions. Shipped with USPS First Class Package. Just add an air compressor, blow gun, high-speed camera, and voila … new insight! !… Thank you for all the hard work that went into this test. No response here either. 5. Great article and I follow your posts with great interest! ———————— DON’T TAKE ANYTHING FOR GRANTED! Have taken foot out of mouth. I’m not sure, Russell. It’s be incredibly valuable, because they’re not only so expensive … the time you sink into them for the tax stamp doesn’t allow the typical “try it and trade it” mentality that you can take on some rifle parts. $215.00. So don’t stress too much over the decision. I love the creative, pragmatic approach. Think about the goal of the suppressor company making the muzzle brake. 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Does the suppressor mitigate some of the benefits of just a brake? I used one this weekend to get on at 2228 yards with a 338 Lapua. So I’d be surprised if the conclusions would be any different, regardless of how you tested it. It’s towards the bottom of the post. My suggestion is buy the one you think is best. The more surface area on the ports and the more rearward angled they are, the more they reduce recoil. I may actually tweak the chart when I get time to be a little more clear. Both the Blast Tamer and Impact Precision have straight 90 degree baffles, so the blast patterns will be similar. In regard to tightening, would you consider making a wrench with a Bobbitted handle to go with the brake? Combining the success of APAs Little Bastard Gen II and The Answer muzzle brakes, the Little Bastard Gen III Self Timing Muzzle Brake is the new standard in hunting and competition brakes. He was definitely before his time. It’s always helpful to see all the data innone place. That was no small feat. It’s a real problem. We all know muzzle brakes are loud, but this test finally gives us some hard data and makes objective comparisons. You wouldn’t be threading the suppressor for a specific rifle, you’d only be threading the brake a specific rifle … so the suppressor could be used on anything. I need an editor. Thank you so much you’ve been a huge help!! $215.00 . Cal- Impact Precision is that same way too, if you were looking for a little more compact package. Thanks for the hard work, glad I went with a JEC =). The importance of each aspect of performance will vary based on the application (cartridge size, intended use, etc.). American Precision Arms is very excited to share the release of the Generation 3 Fat Bastard. For exhaustive details on the test system, why I selected these cartridges and rifles, or other details, see the Recoil Post. I don’t sell any of this stuff, and pricing is subject to change without notice. Thanks, Russell. I hope that it provides a lot of insight into one aspect of precision shooting that has been largely neglected in terms of objective comparisons. It’s good to see someone else out there making experimental measurements and publishing the results for everyone else to benefit from. If you call Jodie in the office she can get you on the waiting list for any of them. Thanks for the extensive testing of brakes. I committed to creating a system using high-resolution sensors capable of recording hundreds of data points in a single shot … and I pulled it off. If you want to make sure you don’t end up buying twice, I’d suggest going with something based on this performance data. I finally got my brake. . Just throwing your opinion out there that it could compete is based on what? Minuteman. This field test has already been a catalyst for conversations, and I hope it ignites some innovation over the next year or two. thank you for another excellent post. Aaron was very helpful and answered all my emails. I contacted AWC about their suppressor noise reduction capability for 338 LM. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. I went back and added a paragraph before the chart that gives a little more context on that. Quick View. There was no measureable difference between those two models in terms of recoil force. If I can contribute 1% of what he did, I’ll consider it a wild success!!! These are sweet! While I’m very passionate about long-range shooting, it’s just a hobby for me. I’m absolutely not out to get any manufacturers, but I’m not interested in getting in bed with any either. Good job! I hope I'm on the list. By the way fabulous job on this test. That can be a frustrating problem to diagnose. Could be fixed with cerakote or something later down the line. That’s great! Hey, Machi. Thinking about my mates on the firing line! I funneled baking soda into vinyl tubing, tunneled the tube into a rubber stopper, and shoved the stopper into the chamber of a barrel. Quick question though, on the pricing chart, what do the bars with two numbers mean? it costs WAY more than it’s paid). So those first baffles could be integral to the suppressor, or to the muzzle brake within the suppressor. My goal is to simply provide the data, so you can make an informed decision for your specific application. 338 Lapua to 50 BMG), because both of those seem to get you in a different type of product. We used a Bruel & Kjaer 2209 Impulse Precision Sound Level Meter, which is considered the “industry standard” for this kind of sound measurement. As soon as I have the cash, I’m going to get one. So that is an example of why you’d see the lighter green bar on some of the brakes. APA Gen 3 Fat Bastard 5/8x24 .30 Cal Stainless steel Muzzle Brake. I’m steering more towards the type that directs the sound more to the sides than back towards the shooter. It’s a lot to read. Seriously. – Todd Hodnett. Sound is much more complex than it seems! Lots and lots of muzzle brake designers have read this post. and it doesn't require a ton of force to lock it. I appreciate the hard work you put into this. I sent an email a couple days ago to get on the waiting list and didn't get a reply. I've got a bastard headache. And I’m not sure I deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Harold Vaughn. Is there any evidence that the improved harmonics of the rifle by adding a muzzle break have a positive impact on precision if you take the shooter out of the equation? Does the length of a muzzle brake matter as far as recoil reduction goes? SHOT Show 2020: Leica PRS 5-30×56 with PRB Reticle! I was trying to decide how much weight to put on each test, and finally decided to just ask you guys. Thanks, Tim. Sorry I could be more help on that! 1 of 3 Go to page. then you could film some shooting and compare. Anyone get a response back? I’ve got in the habit of doing that between each stage or string of fire, because if it comes even a little bit loose it will change your POI. Maybe one day I’ll buy a rail gun and be able to do precision tests like that with confidence! Grady, the only muzzle brakes I’ve ever used thread onto the barrel. Yes sir. Thanks, Adith. My question: you’ve demonstrated that brakes help manage recoil and get one back on target quicker. And they seem to match my experience behind the rifle. I looked at the brakes you recommended. Evil in his quest to defeat Austin Powers. Fat Bastard, Actor: Oral Consumption 3. I want to stay independent, so you guys can trust my content to be unbiased. I am an old-school gunsmith and have installed several Shrewd muzzlebrakes for my customers. These brakes are very easy to remove and re-install by simply using a Crescent wrench. Bastard is a blackletter typeface designed by Jonathan Barnbrook in 1990. Just an FYI as some might be looking to purchase one due to the results of this study, and there is no indication of this delay on their web site. Cal Zant is the shooter/author behind PrecisionRifleBlog.com. Thanks for all you’re hard work! I’m not sure, Russell. My next two would be the Impact Precision or APA 2nd gen. Again, another fantastic test. I’ve tried to find an objective approach to quantify as many features and performance metrics as I could. Both he and Bryan are experts among experts, but they have a very different approach. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Just as an FYI, to anyone looking to purchase a JEC Customs brake, the wait might be pretty lengthy. It may be smaller but the design is so effective that it has no issues taming cartridges up to the 338 Ultra Mag etc. Two weeks and three rehearsals after their formation, the Fat Bastard Blues Band played their very first gig, winning the Triangle Blues Society’s 2009 Blues Challenge. It allows you to make a quick, at-a-glance comparison of all the brakes. I am not knowledgeable on this subject, but i have some doubts about ground signature. I’d really only recommend 2 suppressors for precision rifles: Thunder Beast Ultra Series Suppressors or SilencerCo Omega. If there is enough support, I might consider doing it next time. Honestly, this field test likely contributed to that problem. Essentially if it’s really loud, it really works! Just a slight bump past hand tight and you are done. You are isolating your thread-specific dependency to a $100 part that isn’t regulated, and not the $1000 heavy-regulated suppressor. The Impact Precision is a 2 port design, with one blast chamber larger than the other, and the Blast Tamer is available in 3 or 4 port designs (all with evenly spaced baffles). Notice none of the brakes have red dots all the way across. As always great post! FAT Basterd Gang Band, Lyon. TT. Currently it is $24 on Amazon and this is why I feel it should be included. Thank you for your feedback! I eventually moved away from it because it didn’t have as good of bullet selection as the 6, 6.5, 7, or 30 calibers … but I still love the cartridge. Best of luck to you in the PRS! APA Gen II Little Bastard. I’ve been approached by countless manufacturers with offers to sponsor this website. I guess we were thinking along the same lines. Not many people out there willing to go half the distance you did here unfortunately so its very appreciated. Unauthorized use and/or duplication of this content, data, or other materials is strictly prohibited without prior express and written permission from the author. My friend sent me this information and it is informative. So straight baffles can be safer and may also reduce the shock wave you have to endure behind the gun (and certainly those around you have to endure), but I just wanted to make sure you weren’t thinking there would be a lot of difference in sound. Once the suppressor is mounted on the brake, they act as one part. Now to your question, I’m not sure there is any evidence that shows a TOMB (Thread Over Muzzle Brake) suppressor is any more effective than a direct-thread suppressor. I explained why in a recent post on that series of suppressors. Please don’t forget to spend hundreds of hours publishing the results so others can benefit from it. This test focused on muzzle brakes designed for precision rifles in 6mm through 30 caliber. It’ll be fun to see what comes out! Posted by Gary on Nov 5th 2019 Just received this brake, and I'm impressed. We are sending 10 out to the K&M match and the Hide cup along with some other goodies. I personally have a lot of confidence in ThunderBeast (TBAC) suppressors, so that’s what I’ve personally bought … but I can’t say their better than the AWC’s. I have not had a response to my email request yet. American Precision Arms is very excited to share the release of the Generation 3 Little Bastard. Bryan was talking about rifle sights/optics in the quote above, but it articulates my fundamental philosophy. And thanks for spotting that mistake. You can also shoot me a PM if you like. As you stated one would expect a correlation between recoil reduction and loudness. Quick View. Thanks man! 34. Maybe one day I’ll be able to provide some hard data on suppressors to make the decision a little easier. I have always heard that you can have muzzle break — related to staying on target — or flash suppression but not both. Thanks for the suggestion, Luke. I recommend a balanced approach by reading other reviews, talking to shooters with hands-on experience with the equipment, looking at what the experts are using, and considering a company’s reputation and longevity. There are thousands of designs out there … I can’t test them all. Thanks again! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There are no exposed seems etc. I hadn’t seen it, so thank you for sharing. The XXX we aren't sure yet. The first is the incorporation of APA’s U.R.P. Thanks. With that said, they are not all that different — and not just because both names use colorful language. I have been looking at suppressors and read an article on the Precission Rifle Blog on testing dB reduction and I was curious if you had any specs on the Thor PSR XL for 338 LM. If you’re wondering why I didn’t include your favorite, read the Muzzle Brake Line-Up Post. I just didn’t do it … Didn’t seem important to me. Sorry! The quality, fit and finish is excellent! The Bastard face is an exploration of the blackletter face (the earliest types, similar to those made by Gutenberg, and based upon monastic script) with a simple kit of parts. © Copyright 2021 PrecisionRifleBlog.com, All Rights Reserved. I find myself constantly checking my 30P-1 suppressor to make sure it hasn’t come loose. They aren’t going to tweak the design so that it works better as a stand-alone muzzle brake, if it means it wouldn’t be completely optimized for use with the suppressor. The performance of the muzzle brake when ran stand-alone is of little importance to those guys. That was an integrity moment for me, and shows that I really would prefer to not publish results on something, rather than publish results that could be misleading. American Precision Arms is very excited to share the release of the Generation 3 Fat Bastard. Blessings! Remington factory Sendero varmint. I appreciate your comment. You thread the brake all the way down and the back it off until indexed. With that on the chart, it just seemed to add more noise than being helpful. So really these brakes represent best of class, and I’m sure you’d be happy with several of them. I run a little bastard on a Dasher and a Fat Bastard on a 7SAUM. Apr 30, 2014 #1 I just wanted to give you guys a peek at our new … Its the loudest dang thing i have ever been around. One question relating to all your reviews – you always have great information you pull from various sources. It’s just another tool in your toolbox when researching muzzle devices. Having said that, I’d be surprised if any of these brakes affected precision in any measurable way. On a sporting rifle they look like hell. Cal, There are lots of good choices, depending on your application and priorities. I would love to use the lite or big b but my 1/2-28 thread and 9/16 od on my .270 barrel didn’t allow those. I do like the look when they appear to be integral to the barrel, but not at the cost of performance. 10K likes. The JP Eliminator is just as you say and I will be shooting that ugly thing in the PRS series soon as well. I’ve read a lot of great books, but if I had to narrow it down to one, I definitely know which it’d be: Applied Ballistics for Long Range Shooting by Bryan Litz. This provides a more accurate indicator of the actual sound levels firearms operators will encounter while shooting. Please share the website with your buddies at the range and on Facebook! In fact, I was discussing this muzzle brake test with David Tubb, a very accomplished rifleman, and he is convinced the ability to stay on target was the most important aspect of a muzzle brake. While Bryan has a very technical/engineering approach, Todd has a very practical/field-based approach. What would be your “must read” sources in the LR world? From: David Morgenstern My formulas are built around where the bullet hits. I worked with a lot of sharp guys from several different industries to devise a test system, which directly measures recoil force at the butt of the rifle. Best value for the money and could compete seriously on this list. Was just looking an hr ago for a new brake that didn't need crush washers. I have shrewd on there now but realized there wasn’t much of a reduction and then I saw your site and it confirms it. I literally fired 1,000+ rounds of match-grade ammo in my recoil test system. No test of the Amazon brake? I measured recoil on 4 different cartridges and rifle configurations, from a mid-sized 6mm to a monster 300 magnum, and all types of stock designs and rifle weights. I hear you, but they don’t all look like the JP tank. I also setup a high-speed camera capable of recording 240 frames/second to record the laser movement through each shot. Only read the summary blog. I attached a laser to the rifle, and placed a target at 25 yards that had a grid of 1”x1” squares on it and an aiming point. The APA Gen II muzzle also has a lock nut design allowing owners to skip a trip to their local gunsmith and keep their muzzle at the same length. That seems more rare than it probably should be. I did notice a strong correlation between how loud a muzzle brake is and how effective it was at mitigating recoil. At least that is my theory! Which would you highly recommend for 308? Bastard!! It doesn’t redirect as much of the muzzle blast rearward, which can be less annoying (and safer) for those around you. He thought a few percentage points difference in recoil reduction may not make a huge difference (or help you get more hits), but a brake that can keep you on target can be a big advantage. The brake-attached version doesn’t suffer from that problem as much. APA took the most effective muzzle brake on the market and made it better! I was wondering though have you given any thought into testing out how effective those muzzle brake shrouds are at reducing the excessive report that plagues most of the high performance muzzle brakes? Here are links to the others: Tags Alamo Four Star Alamo Four Star Muzzle Brake American Precision Arms APA Fat Bastard APA Little Bastard Badger Muzzle Brake Center Shot Rifles CSR Blast Tamer Muzzle Brake Holland's Muzzle Brake Impact Precision JEC Customs JEC Muzzle Brake JP Muzzle Brake Muzzle Brake Muzzle Brake Reviews OPS Muzzle Brake Seekins Precision Shrewd Muzzle Brake Surefire TriDelta Muzzle Brake Tubb Muzzle Brake West Texas Ordnance. Now, I did just order a TBAC 6.5mm Ultra-7 suppressor last week … and I ordered the brake-attached version. Are those alternate prices? My goal with this project was to equip fellow long-range shooters with as much hard data as I could reasonably gather, so they could make an informed buying decision for their application. 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